Cesar Chavez controversy, Pope Leo speaks out against the Middle East war, and an interview with Kate Ward

Heidi, Daniel, and David look at recent horrific revelations about the labor leader, Cesar Chavez, as well as exploring the Pope's pushback against the war with Iran. In our third segment, Heidi interviews Dr. Kate Ward about the meaning of work in Catholic Social Teaching.

INTRO

SEGMENT 1 - Allegations against Cesar Chavez

New York Times report

Delores Huerta statement

Statistics for American women on sexual assault

The women report they stayed silent “for the good of the work”

J.D. Long-Garcia’s piece in America Magazine

Thomas Merton: “The Root of all War is Fear”

GIA Interchange podcast episode with Natalie Pucillo

SEGMENT 2 - Pope Leo speaks out about the Middle East war

Secretary of Defense Hegseth bragging about the billions spent so far

The Pope’s Angelus remarks

Not just “lefty” Catholic types, but across the political spectrum

A “war of choice”

“Death by Lightning” on Netflix

Moral Unseriousness

Vance shut out of the conversations

The influence of Israel on going to war

Ezra Klein interview

SEGMENT 3 - Heidi interviews Kate Ward